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Entrecard and SezWho… What do you think?

Posted Thursday, July 24, 2008 by momscashblog | 11 Comments so far

I’d like to know what other think about the partnership between Entrecard and SezWho? (check it out here.) Basically, Entrecard is getting together with SezWho in an attempt to encourage bloggers to start commenting. But it goes further than that. The system will encourage us to leave “quality” comments by using the SezWho comment rating system. Now normally I love the rating system… for hotels, restaurants, movies, and books, or whatever… but NOT for comments!

Graham of Entrecard says that people aren’t commenting enough and some aren’t commenting at all, so this is his solution. His motto for this partnership/campaign is “Comment or get out of the Blogosphere”!(and he says that should be our motto too!) I understand and I agree that comments are important to bloggers because the more you comment on other blogs, the more exposure your blog gets. But if he’s trying to encourage people who haven’t been commenting to start commenting with a rating system… I don’t think it will work.

We’re dealing with people and you can’t force people to comment with a rating system. It might work for ones who are already making the rounds, but there’s no way it will encourage those who don’t comment to start commenting. In fact it could have the opposite effect. (By the way, he’s not forcing anyone to comment… he’s rewarding them with extra Entrecard points if they participate and if their comments are rated highly!)

No more Mr. Nice Guy.  With this system, “nice post” or “nice blog”, and comments like that are frowned upon and will be considered spam and get a low rating. Long comments and debate is encouraged and will get a high rating.  Personally, I see nothing wrong with someone saying “nice post” on my blog because I don’t expect my visitors to write an essay about my posts. When a college professor reads your work and says “Nice Work!” or “Well Done” you know he liked your work and that you’re doing a good job. There’s nothing negative about “nice post” but I know that some bloggers go around and just leave a quick generic comment without reading a post and that’s considered a problem in the blog world. I don’t really see it that way. Every time a commenter says  “nice post” it doesn’t always mean he didn’t read the post. (maybe he just thinks it’s a nice post… ‘nuf said! lol)

Also, what about people who speak English as a second language? It amazes me how well they write and it always reminds me of how we expect others to know English, yet we rarely know another language. I know a little Thai and some high school French, but I would hate to be rated on my commenting skills in those languages. (Do they take second languages into consideration with the rating system?) 

Posters rate the comments. It sounds like the poster gets to rate the comments, and I really would have a problem rating people’s comments. Who the heck am I to say what’s a good comment or not? A comment is someone else’s thought… it may not be what I want them to say, but that’s the beauty of comments and opinions.

Commenters rate the posts and other comments. On the other hand, SezWho is basically a way for the commenter to rate a blogger’s post AND other comments. So the poster rates the comments and the commenter rates the posts and other comments. We could be spending all of our whole day rating each other.

SezWho allows commenters to rate anonymously. From what I’ve learned of SezWho (which is very little) a commenter can rate a post anonymously. I don’t know the details of that, but does this mean they don’t even have to comment to rate posts and comments? I guess I don’t understand how a commenter can rate anonymously…  But anyways, with commentators being anonymous I think a little sabotage could take place for bloggers who are competing. If someone doesn’t like you, can they affect your blog with ratings?  I’ve had someone who I guess isn’t happy that I bought a blog. He or she keeps coming on with different names but the same IP number to make remarks about my incompetence. With this system, is there a way for him to sabotage me? I haven’t seen him/her around lately, but these are things I wonder about when it comes to anonymity.

What about non-bloggers?  I wonder what effect the rating system has on non-bloggers. Non-bloggers are very important readers. I love seeing people who don’t have a blog making comments on my blog because I know they have the “blogging bug” and soon they’ll be wanting to start a blog and monetize it with ads. The fact is, non-bloggers are potential customers for most of us who have blogs. Will seeing a rating system on comments scare them away from commenting and participating in the blogging system? (If anyone already uses SezWho please let me know if you get a lot of non-bloggers making comments… I’d like to know about that.)

Being a beginner to blogging myself, I know that it took me a very long time before I even dared to comment and I’m one of the most extroverted people you could ever meet in person. I love people and I talk to everyone I see. When I make eye contact with a total stranger, I can’t help but smile and say something. (Let’s just say I’m not shy! lol) Yet, for some reason, I was very hesitant to comment on blogs. It took me months before I made my first comment and it was a big deal to me. There were many times I didn’t comment when I wanted to because I wasn’t sure how the system went. I would not comment on blogs with stars and rating for fear I’d be rated low! lol I think seeing a rating system would turn off non-bloggers and that’s not good for any of us.

Comments aren’t everything!

Not everyone will comment and that’s all right. Studies have shown that usually LESS than 5% of those who read your blog will comment. Comments are nice, but they are not the “be all and end all” of your blog. There’s nothing wrong with people reading what you say, absorbing it and not commenting. You can’t force people to comment, you can only encourage them. I think having rules and regulations and ratings is not the way to encourage genuine comments. 

I’m also thinking of the time and effort we’d be expected to put into making comments and rating things. It seems like we’ll be rated on our reading and comprehension skills when commenting. I take my time and I pay close attention to grammar and sentence structure when writing a post… but when I’m making comments, I just let them fly! lol If you want to make money with your blog, you need to find a way to spend LESS time on it.. not more.

Entrecard has been a great experience and it’s a wonderful way to get yourself out there and get noticed, but I’m not sure if I like this new system they’re encouraging us to use. I think it will only encourge bloggers who are already commenting to make more lengthy comments on other blogs. I don’t see how a rating system would encourage those who aren’t already commenting to start now. I really think it will have the opposite effect.

Please let me know what you think about this partnership and if you plan to participate in it. As you can tell from this post, I’m very hesitant to get into it. I’d like some feedback from other bloggers and non-bloggers alike so I can make a decision. Thanks!

sarah July 24th, 2008 (10:28 pm)

Hey girlie :)
No – I do not think we should be rated on comments.
First of all, I don’t know how it works, but what if I use my email/login and then later start a blog – I am stuck with ratings from comments from long ago (not that I leave mean comments or anything, but what if some are not great, I get a bad rating and then later realize it can hurt me?)
Secondly, Our opinions are unique to us- just as you said – who is someone to “rate” my opinion?
Third, how could this possibly be a valid indicator of the person’s comments – what if you rate me bad but there are 500 other people that agree with me but aren’t the “rating” type – they may agree with me but don’t bother to speak up?
We can get labeled and branded so easily, and let’s not forget, once we are out there having our name slung in mud – it’s hard to clean it up. (Which could lead to yet another point, what about vindictive people that purposely post mean things to try to hurt someone?)
Just my 2 cents worth (which is probably worth even less than a penny LOL !

I wanted you to know – I sent you a reply email – please check your spam folder. :)


Laura July 24th, 2008 (11:46 pm)

Go ahead rate my comment… jk…be nice

I don’t think so. I am for rating the posting and reading the comments left by others. I would not like to have my readers comments rated. It would cause a “Monkey see Monkey do” >:) effect.

In the field we are in; we better have some tough skin :) I welcome comments and ratings on my postings.

I have found the EntreCard to be very effective for all newbie bloggers. Of course existing bloggers as well.

The reasoning behing the SezWho (or I call it SayWhat?), you want to encourage EntreCard droppers to comment or at least to click on an internal link in your site. Alexa and Quancast ranks your site based on actual traffic. Therefore, if I only stopped by your site to drop, you do not benefit. I make sure to drop in and click on internal links, comments and if you have any information that is external I will also click.

At the end, the newbies are learning the value clicking Traffic vs Spam. So be nice, visit and support our fellow bloggers. If you do not care to comment I encourage you to click on an interal link.
:) Now, don’t rate my comment lol

JJ great article.I am going to link it to one of my blogs! :)

Andreas from Xavier Media July 25th, 2008 (8:11 pm)

I think comments are important for a blog, but like you I don’t think comments should be rated. I still got SezWho on my main blog but I’m planning to remove it both because of the rating idea and also because of the technical problems they’ve had. People are reporting problems when they got more then one blog they want to add and also there’s a bug in the SezWho plugin for WordPress: http://entrecard.com/forums/6/11205/#p=5

Earlier Entrecard started deleting “fast dropping” sites and this (SezWho) may be soon abused too like “Rate my comments and I’ll rate yours”….. Soon we will see penatlies for commenting too much or something :( and then the whole system will fail.


Jitendra July 25th, 2008 (11:07 pm)


Jitendra from SezWho here…Great thoughtful piece.

Lot of good point here. Following is my take:

1. Rating comments is a way a number of users participate in the conversation.
2. With SezWho the ratings are weighted based on who the rater is – kinds same as how a recommendation from a well known person means a whole lot more than somebody not as well known. This makes the system hard to game.
3. SezWho does support anonymous ratings but anonymous ratings cannot change a comment score by more than 10%…so users are incentivized to rate with their credibility.
4. We have release a fix for the multiple blogs in the same db case…Please contact us at support@sezwho.com.
5. SezWho is a universal profile service so user get credibility not just with comments but with posts as well (in fact forum posts as well). This accumulated credibility is what EC uses to reward the commenters.
6. Comment and ratings work on a time scale…so older comments and ratings have a diminishing effect of a users credibility.

I hope I have answered all your questions. Send us a mail at support@sezwho.com if you still have questions. Check out SezWho in action at http://sezwho.com/blog

Thanks, Jitendra

JJ - Moms Cash Blog July 26th, 2008 (12:37 am)

Sarah… your comments are worth much more than a penny or two! lol Those are good points. I didn’t think about comments from earlier logins. Also, say someone were to run for political office in the future, gathered comments could be dangerous.
(got your mail.:) )

Laura… Yes, Posts being rated us understandable, but allowing others to rate comments is a whole other thing.

Andreas… thanks for the feedback. Good to hear input from someone who has been in the system and uses it. (btw, I see you have another EC “give away”!! I will try again, I feel lucky! lol)

Jitendra… Thanks for stopping by and explaining a few things about SezWho and addressing some of these issues. I still have questions. Can a user have their comments removed at any time they choose?

Shafar July 27th, 2008 (9:31 am)

I think all Comments are very valuable. If we try to avoid short comments like ‘nice post’ ‘nice blog’, we won’t get too much comments.. Just my opinion..!

JJ - Moms Cash Blog July 28th, 2008 (1:38 pm)

Shafar… I agree. Sometimes “nice comment” or “nice blog” says it all. If people have to think too hard about trying to write a long comment they might just not make one at all. :)

Laura… I notice that my comment back to you earlier didn’t make much sense. I made a typo! I meant to say “posts being rated ARE understandable.” Sorry about that. so don’t rate my comment with the typo in it!. lol :)

Nanjodogz August 5th, 2008 (12:50 pm)

I was going to give it a try, but could never get SezWho to work on my site, every time I put the code in, nothing would show up so I just gave up.

Krystyl August 7th, 2008 (11:11 pm)

Well I will have to say that I am guilty as charged when it comes to not commenting…some blogs, just dont have anything worth commenting on…and its unfortunate. I definetely do not like the rating system on my comments that I hardly make. haha Since I only comment once in a blue moon, I rate my low end comments at least a 3.5 :-P

Amber August 10th, 2008 (1:29 pm)

I didn’t know what SezWho was, so I signed up to do it. I got the instructions in my inbox and just trying to read through it to figure out how to install it wore me out and I gave up! I’m so busy that anything that takes more effort than point and click just isn’t working with me right now. Thanks for commenting on my blog! I’m still trying to get it all together. I had no idea people even made money with blogs, so good job to you!

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